View Full Version : gonna throw this FARKING computer out the window soon!!
i upgraded before xLan, including a reformat, then had heaps of problems with BSODs and firefox/internet explorer crashing. bc2 and vent worked fine
pc went into the shop twice - they stress tested it and couldn't induce any crashes or anything.
then at xLan 2 or 3 others were having similar issues and were saying it was the ati drivers, so i rolled them back. still no joy.
so i replaced the ati card with an nvidea card, latest drivers, and everything works again, WONDERFUL!
had 2 days of problem free gaming and browsing, then tonight it blue screened again while in bc2. wrote down the numbers and stuff, restarted, played through a couple of maps and BSOD. restarted, played another 2 or 3 maps, BSOD.
so i turned it off, fired up the lappy, googled 0x0000008E (0x0000005... and its looking like either a ram problem (rams only about a month old), or maybe some rootkit malware thingy.
so its back to the shop tomorrow with the BSOD number to see if it'll help them sort it, otherwise i'm thinking either upgrade to win7, or go back to the old Q6600/680i/ddr2 ram with the new cards and stuff.
anyone got any other ideas?
Scarface
25-07-10, 08:26 AM
Bro I'd think u should try changing the ram
Sorry not much help to you on this but here is a website that looks like it might
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1647&page=3
I would be surprised if the Computer shop ran individual stress testes on every component probably just a general test for all, as individual test takes hours for each component. Zav had a good memory test program I think it was called memtest which you burn to a cd the run at start up.
There is also ones for the hard drive (do not expect it to be this had 6 hard drives die no BSOD with them though)Video cards ( do not expect it to be this either as you have tried two ) and cpu (unlikely also due to the randomness )
I would start with the memory though, if you have two sticks or more remove all but one (you can try this without doing a memory test and see if you still get the BSOD)
I would also check device manager via control panel > system > hardware > device manager, make sure there is no ? on any of the devices.
Markallen3
25-07-10, 10:57 AM
my brothers pc also crashed when he first got it and got the BSOD a few times but rolling back the drivers to 10.5 fixed all that
Fatherted
25-07-10, 12:50 PM
so i replaced the ati card with an nvidea card, latest drivers, and everything works again, WONDERFUL!
thats what I did but also put in new hard drive and new ram and its all good
Put it this way... new PC, not your problem.
Take it back to shop with the numbers etc, their problem. Just expect a fully functional PC.
To me it sounds like the RAM modules or Motherboard a dodgy..... RAM overheating?
Stress test is good to see the PC running hard, but this doesnt give it time to warm up and be under a constant 'stress' for long....
Sorry Mudd but I've got to disagree with the boys - throwing it out of a window sounds like way more fun
right, shop checked out the pc last week, checked the ram, couldn't find any problems so said its probably a bad auto update of service pack 3 and so pc needs to be reformatted. i told them to upgrade it to win7 64bit. got it back on friday fired it up on saturday night after work tried to install firefox off usb stick, BSOD before installation finished, pc restarted itself, i tried installing firefox again - it worked. used firefox for a few minutes, BSOD.
this is on a fresh install of win7 with only firefox installed, and all the drivers that the shop installed were the latest versions.
wouldn't this mean its more likely a hardware issue?
i ran memtest86+ from 7pm last night to 2pm today, through 21 passes with no errors detected.
i had a talk to 1 of the techies at the shop today and he suggested it could be 1 of the usb peripherals causing the problems, because when its at the shop hooked up to their stuff they can't generate any BSODs but as soon as its at home its BSODing all over the show.
i have had issues in the past between the mouse (razer lachesis) drivers and the keyboard (razer tarantula) drivers, and so have always had the lachesis drivers installed with the keyboard using the windows generic drivers.
but there's no razer drivers installed now and its still bluescreening - would that indicate a keyboard issue?
so i guess i should try a different keyboard and mouse. would it help if i tried them in different usb ports?
here's the bluescreen details from last few days
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Dump File : 080110-17706-01.dmp
Crash Time : 1/08/2010 2:02:34 p.m.
Bug Check String : PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Bug Check Code : 0x0000004e
Parameter 1 : 00000000`00000099
Parameter 2 : 00000000`0001a5c2
Parameter 3 : 00000000`00000000
Parameter 4 : 00000000`00016ec2
Caused By Driver : ntoskrnl.exe
Caused By Address : ntoskrnl.exe+70600
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.1.7600.16539 (win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Processor : x64
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\080110-17706-01.dmp
Processors Count : 4
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 7600
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Dump File : 080110-12745-01.dmp
Crash Time : 1/08/2010 2:16:55 p.m.
Bug Check String : SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Bug Check Code : 0x1000007e
Parameter 1 : ffffffff`c0000005
Parameter 2 : fffff800`031f911c
Parameter 3 : fffff880`031cb828
Parameter 4 : fffff880`031cb090
Caused By Driver : Ntfs.sys
Caused By Address : Ntfs.sys+7f350
File Description :
Product Name :
Company :
File Version :
Processor : x64
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\080110-12745-01.dmp
Processors Count : 4
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 7600
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Dump File : 080410-13899-01.dmp
Crash Time : 4/08/2010 2:59:40 p.m.
Bug Check String : SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
Bug Check Code : 0x0000003b
Parameter 1 : 00000000`c0000005
Parameter 2 : fffff800`033ba90d
Parameter 3 : fffff880`05f5ac60
Parameter 4 : 00000000`00000000
Caused By Driver : ntoskrnl.exe
Caused By Address : ntoskrnl.exe+70600
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.1.7600.16539 (win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Processor : x64
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\080410-13899-01.dmp
Processors Count : 4
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 7600
==================================================
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Dump File : 080410-14367-01.dmp
Crash Time : 4/08/2010 3:14:07 p.m.
Bug Check String : MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
Bug Check Code : 0x0000001a
Parameter 1 : 00000000`00041284
Parameter 2 : 00000000`70f4d001
Parameter 3 : 00000000`00000000
Parameter 4 : fffff700`01080000
Caused By Driver : ntoskrnl.exe
Caused By Address : ntoskrnl.exe+70600
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.1.7600.16539 (win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Processor : x64
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\080410-14367-01.dmp
Processors Count : 4
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 7600
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do yous need to know system model numbers and stuff?
any help is appreciated:smilie:
New Case/Mobo?
The first error usually relates to USB and the others 'could' be a result of the original USB error.
Still, not your issue, they built it, their problem.
umm, i bought most of the stuff from them and put it together myself. they did the most recent os install. they = pbtech, and i'm not really sure if i should trust them, as i've heard of other pbtech systems having lots of problems. maybe i should try a different shop?
system is:
aerocool QS-200 case - new
gigabyte 785GMT-USB3 mobo - new
corsair cmv 2x2g ddr3 1333mhz ram - new
AMD phenom II 965 black edition 3.4ghz cpu - new
LG GH22NS50 22x sata optical drive - new
creative soundblaster X-Fi titanium soundcard - new
EVGA GTX460 768mb gfx - new
150gig WD velociraptor - from my old system, was stress tested by pbtech who said it was ok.
corsair HX620 psu, from my old system as well.
i could try the shop i got the cpu and case from = promax
It sounds like the USB, if they havent installed the USB connections properly it will cause some issues IE BSOD's.
But if that is correct I think it is the mobo. Ask them to swap out the same model of mobo and test. Also, can you make it BSOD?
but if its the usb's on the mobo, wouldn't they have the same problem when they plug their peripherals into it?
and yes i can make it BSOD, every time i've used it, usually 3 or 4 times before i get pissed off and turn it off:smilie:
What do you do to make it BSOD?
Is it a particular device or type of device? IE USB keys.... or Razor gear etc....
Take it in to them and say here.... LOOK. This is when it BSOD.
I would suggest it is the Mobo, shouldnt matter if the USB is dodgy or not... mobo should be able to handle it and the software say you have issues with that USB.
OMG!! the bastard works again, apparently they fixed an event 1000 error. 1 nights gaming done, no BSODs. here's hoping it stays fixed.
Fatherted
12-08-10, 06:51 AM
lets hope enjoyed shooting you again
Are you certain that is the error they said? They did not say it was an ID ten T error did they :FIREdevil[1]:
fuck i hate pbtech!
day 2 of gaming it bsods on startup then is fine for the night apart from bc2 crashing to desktop twice.
start it up today (day 3), bc2 won't start, so i try to restart the pc and now its frozen on the "shutting down" screen.
my pc has more problems now than when i first took it to them.
so i'm going to stick the new cards into my old mobo/cpu/ram and if that works i'll stick with it and pbtech can GO FUCK THEMSELVES!
Oh I feel the pain Mudd, when all you want to do is sit down chill out play a few rounds and then you have to deal with that sort of shit, arghhhhhhhhhh nightmare.
i asked them if they had tried other sticks of ram in it, and if they could plug everything into another mobo to try and cancel stuff out but they say no, they've run programs through it and stress tested everything and theres no point in doing any of that, like the stress testing programs are infallible. wankers
so fuck em, they've had enough of my business
:PDT_Armataz_01_35[1i asked them if they had tried other sticks of ram in it, and if they could plug everything into another mobo to try and cancel stuff out but they say no, they've run programs through it and stress tested everything and theres no point in doing any of that, like the stress testing programs are infallible. wankers
so fuck em, they've had enough of my business
How long have you had it Mudds? Is everything new and you brought it all from them? I so just tell them you want everything that you have brought replaced or you want a refund! (preferably a refund then you can go somewhere else :PDT_Armataz_01_34[1 ) If it hasn't worked properly since you brought it I am sure you are well within your rights.
P.s Go straight to the top to, I think you said you got it from PB tech, they have like 5 branches, so they probably have a head office go direct to them. say you have consulted a Lawyer ( Jad BSQC) and you are within your rights as a consumer to as for replacement or a refund but due to the circumstances you would prefer a refund :devilfinger[1]: A little BS might get them going :PDT_Armataz_01_35[1 Try and give as much information as possible i.e when and where you brought it, who you have been dealing with, when it was returned for repair, how many times, that sort of shit. Write it all down before you forget.
Lastly if they have not sercum before the end of the phone call (Bastards) do not tell them to go F themselves ( very hard not to do :PDT_Armataz_01_13[1 ) Tell them you will ring them back tomorrow for an answer ( make sure you get the persons name) If this all fails you can still take them to small claims court, but it is really the last thing you want to do.
GOOD LUCK
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